What the hell would the public know about their own self interest. Everybody outside of Chicago is just dumb hicks anyways.
Day 29 12/13/13
Today’s Topic: Who a potentially affected party must petiton in order to participate in a hearing.
- Go to: http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/OilandGas/Pages/OnlineCommentSubmittalForm.aspx
- Click the button: Subpart B: Registration and Permitting Procedures
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: 245.270 Public Hearings
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
Section 245.270 Public Hearings
The Act’s provision affording public hearings are critically important to ensuring that the public has the ability to fully understand hydraulic fracturing permits that may affect them, and challenge them if appropriate. We are therefore concerned that some aspects of the draft rules governing hearings could potentially undercut the robust public participation envisioned in the statute.
Section 1-50(b) of the Hydraulic Fracturing Regulatory Act says any person having an interest that is or may be adversely affected [by a fracking permit], can petition the Department for participation in a hearing.
But Subsection 245.270(a)(6) of the Rules raises the bar, requiring the request for hearing to be served upon the Hearing Officer, the Department, and the ap
Decatur Hearings Coming Up On December 17 – Everyone is welcome
I do not know about the Dirty Dozen concept but the points are important and well made.
Four weeks ago today, IDNR released their weak fracking rules. Many of you have been making comments every day. THANK YOU!
For today’s comment, we’re switching things up a bit. As we prepare for the Decatur, IL hearing and meetings with JCAR, we have put together what we are calling the “Dirty Dozen.” We believe these are the most egregious rules that pose a significant risk to public health, aquatic life, wildlife, or the environment. Read our “Dirty Dozen” and choose any one of them to make your comment for the day. If you aren’t sure which radio button to choose or which Section is appropriate, just make your best guess. IDNR tells us they will not reject a comment for being in the wrong Subpart or Section.
COME TO THE DECATUR IDNR MEETING
The Decatur hearing will be this coming Tuesday, December 17, at the Decatur Civic Center from 6:30-8:30. Are you coming? We have buses coming from Peoria, Bloomington and Springfield. If you want to ride the bus, scroll down for information on the buses.
Will you testify? Please consider testifying using one of the “Dirty Dozen” as the base of your testimony. Choose a comment from the list, tell the IDNR Hearing Officer what is wrong with that Rule and then explain why this is personal to you in your own words. For example,
- “I am a nurse and the issue of keeping chemicals secret from medical professionals is an issue to me because it will impact the kind of care I can give someone who lives near a fracking operation and comes in with symptoms but doesn’t know what fracking chemical they were exposed to.” OR
- “I am a farmer and I need to protect my farmland from migrating water pollution from horizontal drilling legs that could run under my farm.” OR
- “I am a grandmother and I want to make sure the water my grandchildren drink isn’t laced with chemicals and radioactivity.”
Translate the talking points into your own voice. Write it down so that you can submit it to IDNR at the end of the hearing. Don’t worry about not being an expert on the subject. You are an expert in your own life and IDNR needs to hear that citizens throughout Illinois aren’t happy about what’s happening with fracking.
BUSES
These are the times that buses will LEAVE for the hearing, so please, plan to arrive 15 minutes prior to departure with empty bladders and printed copies of your testimony! Please eat before you come or bring a sack dinner.
- 4:00 pm- Peoria – U.U. Church of Peoria – 3000 W. Richwood Blvd.
- 5:00 pm- Bloomington – IPA Office -510 E. Washington
- 5:00 pm- Springfield – First Presbyterian Church – 321 S. 7th St.
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Please For God’s Sake – Recycle the fracking fluid
Why are we even messing around with this stuff. Colorado already demands recycling and Oklahoma make drillers bottle the natural gas. Why are we providing a lower standard of treatment of the Earth then other places.
- Go to: http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/OilandGas/Pages/OnlineCommentSubmittalForm.aspx
- Click the button: Subpart H: High Volume Horizontal Hydraulic Fracturing Preparations and Operations (245.800-245.870)
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: Section 245.850 Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid and Hydraulic Fracturing Flowback Storage, Disposal or Recycling, Transportation and Reporting Requirements
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
Bloomington, IL 61701
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So Illinois Is Gona Protect Me From Fracking – Not the way it is going
- Go to: http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/OilandGas/Pages/OnlineCommentSubmittalForm.aspx
- Click the button: Subpart C: Permit Decisions
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: 245.300 Permit Decisions
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
- To allow horizontal fracking in Illinois,
- To approve horizontal fracking conditionally based on the safeguarding of public health and public safety, and the protection of the environment.
- 224 violations of “Failure to properly store, transport, process or dispose of residual waste.
- 143 violations of “Discharge of pollutional material to the waters of Commonwealth.
- 140 violations of “Pit and tanks not constructed with sufficient capacity to contain pollutional substances.
Bloomington, IL 61701
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Mist Fracking, Foam Fracking And Gas Fracking – These are things I did not know
But it sounds nasty to me. And then there is the use of Acid. This is really ugly stuff.
Today (Sunday, 12/8/13) is Day 24 of the Comment Period of IDNR. We’re almost half-way through the comment period. Please keep making your comments daily!
Today’s Topic: Non-water and partial water fracks must be regulated based on risk, not volume
- Go to: http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/OilandGas/Pages/OnlineCommentSubmittalForm.aspx
- Click the button: Subpart A: 245.100 General Provisions
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: 145.100 Applicability
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
Comment:
The law defines “high volume” fracking based on the number of gallons of base fluid” (at least 80,000 gallons per stage and 300,000 gallons total). While this definition may be applicable if the fracking base is a fluid such as water, it leaves a gaping hole when gas (e.g. nitrogen, carbon dioxide) or a mixture of gas and water (foam fracks, mist fracks), are used. And defining high volume fracking this way is especially critical in relation to Illinois’ New Albany shale where other bases are likely to be used; nitrogen gas and mist fracking is already occurring just across the border in Kentucky’s New Albany shale.
Problem: Gallons are units of volume used to measure liquids. But what if a liquid isn’t used in fracking? Not all fracking base material can be measured by gallons. If non-water base fluids are accounted for as liquid gallons, the gallonage total will fall below the threshold whereby the fracking operation will be considered “high volume hydraulic fracturing”, even though the operation is comparable in scale – and therefore risk – to a high volume water-based frack in terms of chemical use, pressures, or other measures.
Revisions Needed:
The Department needs to come up with an appropriate means to express the threshold of applicability as it applies to non-water fracks. The key parameter for developing a comparable threshold should be identifying comparable risk. Simply converting the water-based thresholds from gallons to cubic feet or another unit of volume appropriate to measure gases would be completely arbitrary and wholly divorced from the real environmental and health risks posed by such non-water fracks. Thresholds for gas-based fracks must be developed independently based on an evaluation of risk and field data from gas-based fracks.
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Illinois Will Glow In the Dark – After Frackers scatter radiation all over the land
All fossil fuels contain radiation somewhere in their masses. In other words in any given coal deposit there will be radioactive hotspots. The same is true of oil and natural gas. So with Fracking you can never tell when you will hit on of those hotspots in the shale. What this means is that all disposal sites for all the debris from the fracked wells must have radiation detectors to guarantee that any radioactive materials are deposited in sites designed for such materials.
Today (Wednesday, 11/27/13) is Day 13 of the 45-day Comment Period on Fracking. We hope you’ll take a minute out of your holiday preparations to submit a comment to IDNR about fracking and radioactivity.
Topic – Radioactivity in fracking operations: More loopholes
- Click the button: Subpart H: High Volume Horizontal Hydraulic Fracturing Preparations and Operations (245.800-245.870)
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: 245.850 Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid and Hydraulic Fracturing Flowback Storage, Disposal or Recycling, Transportation and Reporting Requirements
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
Comment: Subsection (d)(1) of Section 245.850 provides for testing radioactivity only one time–during the early flowback stage–and only for “naturally occurring radioactive materials”. The problems with this are identified below.
Problems:
- The proposed rules do not include any standards or protocols to follow if testing of flowback water shows unacceptable levels of radioactivity.
- The proposed rules do not require the testing of “produced water”, which is the water produced from a well in conjunction with oil or natural gas production. This is where radioactivity is most likely to show up. It should be noted that while these Rules have been purported to be the strongest in the nation, PA law requires the testing of produced water at two separate intervals.
- The proposed rules do not require testing for added radioactive materials, like depleted uranium, which can be used in the perforation/fracturing operation.
- The proposed rules do not test work areas for levels of radioactivity that would call for OSHA standards of occupational safety.
These deficiencies, cumulatively or singly, would pose a significant risk to the public health and safety, property, aquatic life, and wildlife, in violation of section 1-75(a)(2) of the Hydraulic Fracturing Regulatory Act.
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Frackers Must Post Bonds To Drill – Doesn’t that mean they are going to do damage
Yes and the damage they will do is a lot more than 50,000 $$$ they initially put up.
- Click the button: Subpart B: Registration and Permitting Procedures
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click: 245.220 Permit Bonds or Other Collateral Securities
- Submit your comment/s (below)
- Click “Submit”
Bloomington, IL 61701
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Fracking And Water Quality In Illinois – We don’t want any burning drinking water here
For now I have run out of thoughts about how bad the original law was and how terrible the rules coming from it are now.
Today (Tuesday, 11/26/13) is Day 12 of the 45-day Comment Period on Fracking. We’re receiving great feedback from so many of you. Thank you for writing comments and enlisting others to write too. You rock!
You know the drill. Here’s what to do to make today’s comment:
- Go to: http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/OilandGas/Pages/OnlineCommentSubmittalForm.aspx
- Click the button: Subpart F: Water Quality (245.600-245.630)
- In the “Section” dropdown box, click 245.600 Water Quality Monitoring
- Submit your comments (below)
- Click “Submit”
Section 245.600(b)(1) of the proposed rules provides for the testing and monitoring of water sources within 1,500 feet of the well site. Among the many problems with the monitoring provisions, the proposed rules do not provide for testing along the horizontal leg of the well bore, which can extend for up to two miles from the well site. This is a reckless disregard of the known risk of the underground migration of toxic fluids from a horizontal well bore, especially when hydraulic fracturing involves the use of explosive charges and especially in areas known for the risk of higher-magnitude earthquakes.
In a report issued on September 5, 2012, the U.S. Government Accountability Office acknowledged this risk:
“Oil and gas development, whether conventional or shale oil and gas, pose inherent environmental and public health risks, but the extent of these risks associated with shale oil and gas development is unknown, in part, because the studies GAO reviewed do not generally take into account the potential long-term, cumulative effects.”–From: Information on Shale Resources, Development, and Environmental and Public Health Risks, U.S. Government Accountability Office, GAO-12-732 (2012), “What GAO Found”.
The agency mentioned specifically the risk of underground migration of toxic gases and chemicals:
“[A] number of studies and publications GAO reviewed indicate that shale oil and gas development poses risks to water quality from contamination of surface water and groundwater as a result of erosion from ground disturbances, spills and releases of chemicals and other fluids, or underground migration of gases and chemicals.” (Emphasis added.)
Water testing and monitoring should be required all along the length of any horizontal well bores.
(The Government Accountability Office is an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress.)
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Illinois Department Of Natural Resources Is Incompetant – But we kinda knew that
This was forwarded to me by Doctor Lora and other people have pointed out that this has been going on. This is why in my first post I said go to this website:
http://www.ilagainstfracking.org/
They will deliver a printed copy to IDNR which gets you around the whole computer/internet thing.
AND Dr. Laura is suggesting that you send your comments to JCAR who must approve the final regulations before they become law. I am not sure how effective that would be but it takes so little time it can’t hurt. But still run them through IDNR repeatedly if you have to.
If they can’t get their website right, how are they going to get the rules right?
— General Summary of Rules on Radioactivity
Subpart H: High Volume Horizontal Hydraulic Fracturing Preparations and Operations (245.800-245.870)
245.850 Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid and Hydraulic Fracturing Flowback Storage, Disposal or Recycling, Transportation and Reporting Requirements
Comment: Subsection (d)(1) of Section 245.850 provides for testing radioactivity only one time–during the early flowback stage–and only for “naturally occurring radioactive materials”. The problems with this are identified below.
Problems:
The proposed rules do not include any standards or protocols to follow if testing of flowback water shows unacceptable levels of radioactivity.
The proposed rules do not require the testing of “produced water”, which is the water produced from a well in conjunction with oil or natural gas production. This is where radioactivity is most likely to show up. It should be noted that while these Rules have been purported to be the strongest in the nation, PA law requires the testing of produced water at two separate intervals.
The proposed rules do not require testing for added radioactive materials, like depleted uranium, which can be used in the perforation/fracturing operation.
The proposed rules do not test work areas for levels of radioactivity that would call for OSHA standards of occupational safety.
These deficiencies, cumulatively or singly, would pose a significant risk to the public health and safety, property, aquatic life, and wildlife, in violation of section 1-75(a)(2) of the Hydraulic Fracturing Regulatory Act.
— Produced Water Needs to Be Tested for Radioactivity (same subpart-H, and section: 245.850)
Notably absent from this section is a requirement for the testing of “produced water”, the fluid that returns from the well later during production and is most likely to contain radioactivity. Under the proposed rules, “produced water” can be stored on site and/or can be “recycled”, yet there is no testing requirement.
Naturally occurring radioactive material (NORM) and technologically enhanced naturally occuring radioactive material are both found in “produced water”. See Technologically enhanced naturally occurring radioactive materials in the oil industry (TENORM), Nukleonika 2009; 54(1):3?9, and sources cited therein, especially for TENORM in produced water in the U.S., available athttp://www.nukleonika.pl/…/full/vol54_2009/v54n1p003f.pdf. See also
NORM is also found on scale in oil pipes and on fracking equipment. (See Kentucky Resources Council Proposes Comprehensive Plan For Investigating Radiological Contamination In Martha Oil Field. August 11, 2005.http://www.kyrc.org/webnewspro/112381723236086.shtml.)
IDNR’s definitions of “flowback water” and “produced water” are different. They are treated differently by both the Hydraulic Fracturing Regulatory Act and by the DNR Rules. The Department knows that produced water will be in contact with the naturally occurring radioactive elements in the ground for a longer period that the flowback and that it is much more likely to be radioactive. Therefore it should require it to be tested and handled accordingly.
Problems: Failure to test produced water for radioactivity is problematic for a variety of reasons including:
The health and safety of workers on the site who will be unaware of the levels of radioactivity they are being exposed to. The health and safety of workers transporting produced water who will also be in the dark regarding the levels of radioactivity they will be exposed to.
The risk of storing radioactive material in tanks not created for storing radioactive materials.
The risk of “recycling” produced water—radioactivity cannot be removed by recycling.
The risk to the public in transporting radioactive materials
Argonne National Laboratory recently cautioned about radiological doses: “It is commonly accepted that efforts should be undertaken at all times to keep radiological doses ‘as low as reasonably achievable,’ which is referred to as the ALARA principle or requirement.” Overview of Radiological Dose and Risk Assessment (April 2011). DNR is failing to even adequately test for radioactivity and therefore, will not know the levels of radioactivity. How, then, can DNR adequately protect workers and the general public?
Revisions needed:
At a bare minimum, the rules should require that “produced water” be tested at two separate intervals across time for radioactivity. This is already required in Pennsylvania. The rules should also require that the requirements of the Illinois Low Level Radioactivity Waste Management Act be followed.
— Rules need to include requirements or standards when radioactivity is found (same subpart-H and section:245.850)
The proposed rules include no follow-up requirements or standards if testing shows radioactivity levels in flowback to be high. In other words, these proposed rules treat flowback the same whether it is highly radioactive or not! DNR knows that naturally occurring radioactivity material occurs in Illinois oil and gas operations. See 62 Ill. Admin. Code secs. 240.860(e)(3), 240.861(k)(1)(C).
Revisions Needed: The rules must specify how flowback AND produced water will be treated if they test positive for radioactivity. The rules should also require that the requirements of the Illinois Low Level Radioactivity Waste Management Act be followed.
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Fukushima – The ongoing threat
While it is true that this “underground river of water” or what ever it is, is troubling. It is also clear that the bloggers and the fear mongers also want to have an end of the world hissy fit. The truth probably lies in the middle somewhere, BUT the fact that this is 2 and 1/2 years later is both dangerous and unacceptable. I lay this one at the foot of the antiquated class structure of Japan and its notion that deference is the only honorable approach to major social conflicts. This is at its heart a cultural conflict between the business community and the government which the business community wants to win. Such a win could end us all and the fact that the Japanese government is just now catching on is frightening.
Official: Tepco Plan Could Cause Fukushima Reactor Buildings to “Topple”
Japan’s Nuclear Accident Response Director Warns that Tepco’s Actions Might Cause Reactor Buildings to Collapse
Tepco’s ill-considered efforts to change soil permeability and water flow have caused severe problems at the site … including highly radioactive groundwater bubbling up to the surface.
NHK notes:
The vice governor of Fukushima Prefecture has asked the government to take the lead in handling the matter and stop the leakage. Masao Uchibori told an official from the Nuclear Regulation Authority that some of Tepco’s measures have increased the risk of further leaks.
The Wall Street Journal’s Michael Arnold says:
Obviously this is a massive public health issue … if it gets into the ocean obviously this could be spread throughout the Pacific, could also get into the food supply.
But there is another – stunning – threat.
Specifically, BBC points out:
Engineers are now facing a new emergency. The Fukushima plant sits smack in the middle of an underground aquifer. Deep beneath the ground, the site is rapidly being overwhelmed by water.
What happens when you pour hundreds of thousands of tons of water (400 metric tons each day times 2.5 years times 365 days in a year equals 365,000 metric tons of water) onto soil which sits above a massive aquifer?
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Tilting sinking buildings is not good. Go there and read. More next week.
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